Is it wrong to still listen to R.Kelly? Should his music catalogue be removed from streaming services? In this episode we look at the morality of industries and people to try understand how the abuse by R. Kelly and Harvey Weinstein went undetected and what role if any communities, industries and generally those with vested interests had to play. We also touch on the new rules of engagement when it comes to men courting their female counter part and are the old skool ways confined to history or are we just over complicating the concept of respect which should be common sense?