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Episode 34: Making Change Human Again - A Conversation with Dr. Jason Guttadauria
What actually happens after the survey closes, the insights are delivered, and the change initiative officially “launches”?
In this episode of Unboxing OD, Kenneth Pearson sits down with Dr. Jason Guttadauria, founder of JSG Advisory and widely known as “Dr. Irrelevant,” to unpack why so many well-intentioned change efforts stall and what it really takes to move from insight to sustained impact.
Jason shares the story behind his “Dr. Irrelevant” moniker and how it reflects a deeper truth in organizational work: credentials and models matter far less than what actually improves the employee experience. Together, they explore the gap between listening and action, the limits of top-down change, and why organizations struggle when insights are treated as endpoints instead of starting points.
The conversation dives into real-world examples of hybrid top-down and bottom-up change, the role of behavior in sustaining transformation, and why the popular “seventy percent of change fails” narrative may be doing more harm than good. Jason also introduces the idea of “light-touch coordination” and explains how change becomes more durable when employees help shape it rather than receive it.
This episode is for Organizational Development practitioners, I-O psychologists, HR leaders, and anyone responsible for turning feedback into action. If you’ve ever wondered why change feels exhausting, episodic, or disconnected from the people doing the work, this conversation offers a grounded, human-centered perspective on what comes next.
CONNECT WITH JASON ON LINKEDIN: www.linkedin.com/in/jasonguttadauria
VISIT THE JSG ADVISORY LLC WEBSITE: https://www.jsgadvisoryllc.com
Support the show
CONNECT WITH KENNETH:
- LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearson
- Pearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llc
- E-Mail: [email protected]
TO ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS":
Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)
THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSION
https://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-session
SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATES
- Heather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund
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By Kenneth PearsonWhat actually happens after the survey closes, the insights are delivered, and the change initiative officially “launches”?
In this episode of Unboxing OD, Kenneth Pearson sits down with Dr. Jason Guttadauria, founder of JSG Advisory and widely known as “Dr. Irrelevant,” to unpack why so many well-intentioned change efforts stall and what it really takes to move from insight to sustained impact.
Jason shares the story behind his “Dr. Irrelevant” moniker and how it reflects a deeper truth in organizational work: credentials and models matter far less than what actually improves the employee experience. Together, they explore the gap between listening and action, the limits of top-down change, and why organizations struggle when insights are treated as endpoints instead of starting points.
The conversation dives into real-world examples of hybrid top-down and bottom-up change, the role of behavior in sustaining transformation, and why the popular “seventy percent of change fails” narrative may be doing more harm than good. Jason also introduces the idea of “light-touch coordination” and explains how change becomes more durable when employees help shape it rather than receive it.
This episode is for Organizational Development practitioners, I-O psychologists, HR leaders, and anyone responsible for turning feedback into action. If you’ve ever wondered why change feels exhausting, episodic, or disconnected from the people doing the work, this conversation offers a grounded, human-centered perspective on what comes next.
CONNECT WITH JASON ON LINKEDIN: www.linkedin.com/in/jasonguttadauria
VISIT THE JSG ADVISORY LLC WEBSITE: https://www.jsgadvisoryllc.com
Support the show
CONNECT WITH KENNETH:
- LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/kenneth-pearson
- Pearson & Pearson LLC: www.pearsonpearson.llc
- E-Mail: [email protected]
TO ORDER "THE FLOW OF FIVE TIERS":
Buy The Flow of Five Tiers: A Framework for Structuring High-Functioning Organizations (20% Off)
THE 1:1 PATHFINDING SESSION
https://calendly.com/kenneth-pearson/pathfinding-session
SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS & AFFILIATES
- Heather & Edward Allen Roth 4th Foundation for Arts in Medicine (HEAR 4 FAM) Fund