While Judge Barrett was on the Hill for her confirmation hearing, no one really dug into the possibility that her nomination violated the constitutional principle of separation of church and state; so we conducted a dive into the subject with some help from the speeches of JFK from his 1960 campaign.  John P. Flannery, [email protected], @jonflan. 

We dedicate this podcast to the Wines, their father Jim, and the "boys" long adults, Charles and Jim.