In this episode, Lisa and Anahita chat with Poiab Vue, a Hmong refugee whose family immigrated to the U.S. in 1979, eventually settling in LaCrosse, Wisconsin. Poiab discusses the challenges of growing up Hmong–American and how her rebellious personality set her apart from other Hmong daughters. Today, as a licensed psychotherapist, Poiab aims to empower people in choosing their own path in life and to support them in healing through trauma. In Episode 35, we welcome Poiab Vue.