Rhys joins author and former teacher and reverend, Lionel Fanthorpe in his home in Cardiff to talk about the man's incredible journey of life. Both sit down to talk about how Lionel became a writer, the joys of writing Science Fiction, theorising religion beyond the universes and reality, his friendship with Terry Pratchett, interesting theories on the paranormal especially ghosts and aliens and much more.

Lionel is also my oldest guest at the good old age of 88.

A big thank you to Mark Jones for arranging this podcast and his involvement within this episode.

Apologies for the sound of drilling in the background in some parts of the podcast.

Enjoy.