Guest: James Plouffe (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesplouffe)
Host: Dr. Victor Monga (https://www.linkedin.com/in/victorvirtual)

In this essential episode, host Dr. Victor Monga sits down with James Plouffe, Principal Analyst at Forrester, to tackle the bold claim that "Zero Trust without testing is a lie."

James, who also served as a Technical Consultant on the hit TV show Mr. Robot, shares his expert perspective on why security leaders are experiencing Zero Trust fatigue and how they can prove their progress.

What You'll Learn:

• Zero Trust is a Journey, Not a Destination: Why viewing Zero Trust as a project you can "finish" is fundamentally flawed.
• The Critical Gap: Why continuous security validation and testing controls are the single most important factors in a Zero Trust strategy.
• Operationalizing MITRE ATT&CK: How to shift away from old audit checklists and use frameworks like MITRE ATT&CK to create demonstrable proof of your defenses.
• Overcoming the "People Problem": Strategies for getting buy-in from long-time employees and successfully implementing controls like micro-segmentation without causing friction.
• The Biggest Win for Least Lift: Where security leaders should invest their resources first to achieve the highest impact (Hint: It’s all about Identity and MFA).
• Hacking Hollywood: James shares his experiences ensuring technical accuracy on the set of Mr. Robot and meeting actor Rami Malek.
  
  

This episode is a must-listen for CISOs and security practitioners looking to move beyond theory and build a tangible, well-tested, and effective Zero Trust architecture.

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