Daniel regales Manton with tales of his latest "waste of time," as he spends days trying to put the finishing touches on a FastScripts feature 12 years in the making. They talk about the balance time invested in actual development vs. fighting to get code working in the context of a closed system. Manton explains his decision to shut down his Tweet Marker service, and Daniel asks Manton to reflect on the many indie software products that Manton has developed in the past.