For this episode the ladies skip the wine and go straight for an ice cold Michelada. After an existential conversation about the power of attraction Carlene dives right into the bloody tale of the Lizzy Borden murders in that occurred August 4, 1892 in Fall River Massachusetts. At the end they are not completely convinced of her guilt or innocence, but hey, Carlene gets a lesson in anatomy and the importance of a hymen and we get to talk about the ghosties that still lurk in the Lizzie Borden Bed and Breakfast. Alma discusses Mary Bell, a murderess who was 11 years old at the time she murdered two young boys in the UK in 1968, Martin Brown and Brian Howe. `