The one where we revisit the Cultiverse with four former members of high-demand groups and current members of the International Cultic Studies Association (ICSA): science writer Paul Jensen (fmr. member of the Assemblies of God), trauma therapist Jackie Johnson (fmr. Jehovah’s Witness), and Sarah Edmondson and Anthony "Nippy" Ames (fmr. leading members of NXIVM).  We’ll also talk about the Twin Flames Universe--the newest cult scam for lonely lovers and new-agey drifters--and the way cults and conspiracists both use scapegoating as a tool for control and self-defense.  Brought to you by the latest anti-guru self-defense tool. 

TIME STAMPS:
1. Introduction/Conversation with Paul Jensen (0:03:16)
2. Essay: "The High Cabal and the Lynch Mob"  (0: 48:54)
3. A Conversation with ICSA executive director, Jackie Johnson (1:12:11)
4. Resources for victims of high-demand groups (1:46:02)
     See also the bibliographies to episodes 3.1 to 3.5 on our website Reading Room
(NOTE: None of these timestamps were shamed into submission.) 

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