In the last two episodes, we heard about how drastically wrong a counter-terrorism operation can go, with the death of an innocent man at Stockwell. Many lessons were learned from that case and today these high tempo operations are run very differently.

This week I chat with Warren Barlow. What Warren doesn't know about managing these highly complex operations in real-time isn't worth knowing. He has designed and run hundreds of high-risk terrorist training operations and did it himself for real many times. 

Warren now runs his own training company, using highly realistic, immersive learning technology to put staff and decision-makers through their paces in a wide range of scenarios. You can contact Warren here: https://learn.interopltd.com