Had so much fun sitting down with my friend Singer/Songwriter Derek Fimbel on this episode. We talked about all the good stuff - music, religion, new year resolutions and of course the fantastic Jars of Clay. Also, Derek sings us a song at the end and it's incredible. Happy New Year, everyone! Can't wait to see you in 2019!

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