In Episode 37, we continue the conversation with 30 Pack.  During the second hour of our interview, we discuss his summer rim-to-rim hike of the Grand Canyon, the resulting hallucinations, ultra-marathons, and working with troubled teens in Utah.  30 lived out of his car for 2 1/2 years and tells us some of the craziest things that happened to him during this time - including hiking with the Navajo and hearing and seeing ghosts on the trail in Arizona.

You might recall 30 Pack from Episode 13 (where we talked about his Appalachian Trail thru-hike) and Episode 19 & 20 (where he recounts his Pacific Crest Trail thru-hike), so give those shows a listen if you haven't already. Or jump right in to this second segment of this two part series and get motivated to do good deeds for others and to explore the exciting wilderness of the western U.S.

Subject: Thirty At Thirty - Part TwoInterviewees: 30 PackInterview Date: October 26, 2016Runtime: 49:53

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