Andy Greenberg is a senior writer for Wired. His new book is Sandworm.

“I kind of knew I was never going to get access to Sandworm, which is the title of the book - so it was all about drawing a picture around this invisible monster.”

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Greenberg's archive at Wired

[03:22] Sandworm: A New Era of Cyberwar and the Hunt for the Kremlin's Most Dangerous Hackers (Doubleday • 2019)

[06:21] Dune (Chilton Books • 1965)

[07:03] “How an Entire Nation Became Russia's Test Lab for Cyberwar” (Wired • 2017)

[33:50]Greenberg's archive at Forbes

[37:09]“Is Bitcoin's Creator this Unknown Australian Genius? Probably Not (Updated)” (Wired • 2015)

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