In this episode, I talked with Penn Carey Law School Professor, Kermit Roosevelt III, about his ideas for a new American narrative that better embodies the ideals and struggles of today. In his book, “The Nation that Never Was”, Professor Roosevelt explains how the 1776 founding of America we all know does not actually represent the creation of the nation we live in now. Rather, it is the Civil War and its valiant abolitionists who built today’s America and forged the equality we so often invoke today. Our conversation went from reframing American history, to how this year’s politics will help shape this story, and how activism will play a role in all of this. Tune in now to learn more.