In this episode, Dubb, Ryan, and Dr. Tony observe a conversation between Joe Rogan, Aza Raskin, and Tristan Harris about social media and what it’s optimizing for. They discuss how they are optimizing for engagement vs minimizing perception gaps.

Much of what they are saying goes back to a quote by Charlie Munger: If you show me the incentive, then I will show you the outcome. Here the incentive is engagement, and as we see everyday on social media that people become engaged with the things they are against. 

These clips are taken from episode 2076 of the Joe Rogan Podcast.

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