<p>Elizabeth M. Johnson talks to Dr. Hillary Melchiors about trauma informed care, empathy vs. kindness, and shifting her When Survivors Give Birth course online in this 38th episode of The Birth Geeks Podcast. </p>

Elizabeth M. Johnson talks to Dr. Hillary Melchiors about trauma informed care, empathy vs. kindness, and shifting her When Survivors Give Birth course online in this 38th episode of The Birth Geeks Podcast.

Episode 38: Elizabeth M. Johnson, MA

The Birth Geeks is an evidence-based conversation for birth professionals who are in it for the long game. Dr. Robin Elise Weiss and Dr. Hillary Melchiors tackle the topics other podcasts avoid — boundaries, burnout, business realities, and what sustainable birth work actually looks like. For doulas, midwives, childbirth educators, and nurses. Find us at thebirthgeeks.com.

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Episode 38: Elizabeth M. Johnson, MA

Episode 38: Elizabeth M. Johnson, MA