Man..  It was good catching up with these two for a long over due podcast.  Phil and Caylen are currently wrapping up some classes down in Florida, so I decided to get these two on while they are together.  They ran into some connection speed problems but regardless of that, it was a killer episode and wont be the last time they're on.  Tonight's episode was so much fun to do, as you would expect.  I CAN'T WAIT TO DO IT AGAIN!  Hope you guys enjoy tagging along in the conversation.