This is part two of a two part series on our conversation and performance with Doug MacLeod. In this episode, you'll hear more of the stories from the road with Doug and how his songwriting style works. Plus a conversation on how the arts and society are joined together, despite all of the troubles artists face everyday. It's kind of what makes it all work. Plus, Ric will tell you about a new company that is probably selling you an honest to God spy in hopes you will openly tell your deepest darkest secrets to. 

NEXT WEEK: The House is on Fire and My Coffee is Cold

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