With Stephen on vacation this week, our podcast producer Jay Martin stepped up to join Michael to dive into what it means to truly hope. In a time of much despair and hopelessness, they discuss the concepts of true Christian hope, the counterfeits and oppositions we encounter, and what it means in the story of Abraham when "In hope, he believed against hope."

We hope this episode helps you realize that no matter what, you can trust in the Father's goodness!

Special Guest: Jay Martin.

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