<p>In this episode, Matt and James break down Claes and Coosje's very first interactions at his Stedelijk Museum retrospective in Amsterdam. Additional topics include the formation of PASTA, film department programmer Susan Bertram, President of MoMA Blanchette Rockefeller, and Richard Oldenburg's rise to power. </p>

In this episode, Matt and James break down Claes and Coosje's very first interactions at his Stedelijk Museum retrospective in Amsterdam. Additional topics include the formation of PASTA, film department programmer Susan Bertram, President of MoMA Blanchette Rockefeller, and Richard Oldenburg's rise to power.

<p>In this episode, Matt and James break down Claes and Coosje's very first interactions at his Stedelijk Museum retrospective in Amsterdam. Additional topics include the formation of PASTA, film department programmer Susan Bertram, President of MoMA Blanchette Rockefeller, and Richard Oldenburg's rise to power.&nbsp;</p>

Episode 4: 1971 - It Could Have Been Worse

The Oldenburg Suite is a musical about the life and times of sculptor Claes Oldenburg, his brother Richard, the director of MoMA, and his wife and collaborator, Coosje Van Bruggen. The series includes the show recorded in full, interviews with cast and creative team members from various productions, and an in depth look at the history beyond the script.

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Episode 4: 1971 - It Could Have Been Worse

Episode 4: 1971 - It Could Have Been Worse