Welcome back to the Art & Podcast, a podcast that asks "What do you do?" and "Can that be called Art?".

In this episode we ask: can Psychiatry be called an art-form?

We actually ask this for the second time: Ellie was our first ever podcast interviewee and as a result the victim of our own incompetence at the time, meaning that that conversation was lost to the beast of poor microphone choice. So we interviewed her again and delved further into whether she is in fact an artist-psychiatrist.

Unbeknownst to any of us at the time, it would take us a further year to edit this podcast. I kid you not, Ellie has actually carried out a full pregnancy since this was recorded. Sorry folks! We're probably due another catch up with her now.

Questions by Ronan Mc Mahon. Production by Roy Shearer

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