<p>Songwriter and music educator Bonnie Hayes reflects on her years as Chair of the Songwriting Department at Berklee College of Music, how being a professor has influenced her perspective, and the heyday of 80's punk rock.</p>

Songwriter and music educator Bonnie Hayes reflects on her years as Chair of the Songwriting Department at Berklee College of Music, how being a professor has influenced her perspective, and the heyday of 80's punk rock.

Episode 4: Bonnie Hayes | Get Out of Your Own Way

Singer/songwriter and Berklee College of Music alumni Phöenix Lazare dives deep into discussing the relationship between a writer and their craft in her solo podcast, Songwriting Has No Rules. In an interview style, Phöenix converses with professional musicians and friends to uncover the intricate details of inspiration, process and passion.

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Episode 4: Bonnie Hayes | Get Out of Your Own Way