<p>Kenya talks with musician and journalist Debbie Marie Brown about expectations for politicians, issues with labels and life in the gray zone. </p>

Kenya talks with musician and journalist Debbie Marie Brown about expectations for politicians, issues with labels and life in the gray zone.

<p>Kenya talks with musician and journalist Debbie Marie Brown about expectations for politicians, issues with labels and life in the gray zone.&nbsp;</p>

Episode 4: Debbie Marie Brown - Be Nerdy For My Rights

Comedian Kenya Elan interviews comics, artists and activists about everything from weird societal norms to epic public fails. What have we learned culturally, historically or personally from failure? Tune in and find out!

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Episode 4: Debbie Marie Brown - Be Nerdy For My Rights

Episode 4: Debbie Marie Brown - Be Nerdy For My Rights