Over the last two years I am sure you have heard the soundbites: "America has sent hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine when we could fix our domestic challenges". However, you probably don't know to where our so called money to Ukraine is truly being appropriated: somewhere much closer to home. This episode's guest, like me, hails from the Hawkeye State of Iowa. His name is Peter Rough, the Senior Fellow for Europe and Eurasia at the Hudson Institute in Washington DC. Peter is certainly not your typical elite Washington think tanker. He understands not only Europe, but also Middle America, and why security in Ukraine and Eastern Europe is vital to both.