Phil Norris is a British guy who lives and works in Zurich, Switzerland. Early in 2020, his wife discovered she was pregnant with the couple's second child. Almost the entire pregnancy, not to mention the birth in September, took place  during the Coronavirus pandemic.

Phil and I talk about the pressures and challenges of being an expectant dad (...and mum) in lockdown conditions. It's had an impact on who the family can mix with, his work life and their newborn, Frederick, is still to be introduced to many friends and relatives.