Jean Greene and Mrs. Alma Fisher, retired director of library services at Utica, discuss Chapter 2 of William Holtzclaw's autobiography, Black Man's Burden. Mrs. Fisher is the retired Director of Library Services at Utica, grew up in the area, and is deeply invested in the Utica community. In this episode, Jean and Mrs. Fisher discuss the relevance of chapter 2 including a discussion of Mrs. Fisher's memories of her own childhood experiences.

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