Welcome to COP30 Covered - the daily podcast show from the award-winning edie team which will be keeping you informed and inspired during the 2025 UN climate summit in Brazil.

This third episode, released Tuesday 11 November 2025, focuses on the circular economy aspect of the COP.

With UN-convened discussions to create a global plastics treaty having collapsed this summer, can COPs fill the void? Or is there another way forward? We ask our special guest, Michael Sadowski, executive director and board chair of The Circulate Initiative.

Also in this episode, we bring you the news in brief from Belem, including new NDCs and concerns over biofuel expansion.

Your hosts are:

- edie content editor Sarah George

- edie editor Matt Mace

- edie senior reporter Sidhi Mittal

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