John challenges the myth of positivity in the face of suffering and the danger of avoiding grief. He explores how unacknowledged pain can fester—and how facing grief head-on can lead to real healing. The episode prepares listeners for an even deeper look at loss and refinement in the next installment.

Cover artwork: Jennie Lodien

Editing assistance, Ann Powers and Wayne Hepler 

Audio Editing: Reed Seely

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