Episode 4 occurred in the summer of 2020 when I appeared on my first Instagram live interview with Ashley Collins. I've been hiding behind my written work and music production for so long, and this was the first time social media had heard and seen me. My speaking has improved in the last four years since this aired. I feel confident. My prologue/intro was recorded in 2024. I wanted to publish as a thank you for Ashley being such a pivotal and supportive person in my life. I wouldn't be here without this interview.