Martin sits down for a conversation with his dear friend and author, S. Kay Murphy. In Part 1 of this two-part conversation, Martin and Kay talk about the merits of being in Oprah's Book Club versus winning the Pulitzer Prize. They spend most of the episode talking about Kay's memoir, The Tainted Legacy of Bertha Gifford, which is the story of her great-grandmother, Bertha Gifford...who may or may not have been a serial killer.