In this episode Jeffrey Hancock and Kurth Lancaster sit down with Scott Heidner (ACEC KS Executive Director) and Travis Lowe (KSPE Executive Director) of Gaches Braden and Associates.  Topics discussed include the calling of Nashville, Elk as livestock, turf and turf for the American Hero, imported cigars, what's a lobbyist, and the greatness of working with engineers.  Music: www.bensound.com