In this episode, host Shaun sits down with Seth Heydon Zaharias, co-owner of Cliffhanger Guides, the premier guiding company in Joshua Tree, California. Seth shares the full story, from tearing his MCL as an aspiring professional snowboarder in 1999, to buying a desert cabin for $9,000, starting a guiding company with just $10,000, and building respected private guiding operations in North America, all while everyone in the industry told him it couldn't be done.