In this episode Phil and Maria dive into the interesting subject of the relationship between the miracle that God has performed in creating us anew (the new birth) and the progressive dismantling of the old self-life. There are teachings in the current move of God that insist that the ‘flesh’ no longer exists and that the finished work of Christ is so comprehensive that our souls do not need any further sanctification. Phil explores this idea and replies to it by explaining what Paul means by the ‘flesh.’