To discuss one of this season's most plot-point-packed episodes, we're joined by Travis Kasje, who has never seen this show before. So much happens in episode 4, and yet we're bored out of our minds. We're talking really gross men, the first speaking POC characters, if Jessa knows what her job even is, and whether or not Hannah's makeover is working. Also bonus: we see Charlie's “band” perform, so actually...maybe it's the best episode yet?

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