Summary: In our fourth episode of Kids are Philanthropists, Too!, we explore the immigrant and refugee experience...starting with stories from the past.

Our hosts: Amy Neugebauer co-hosts with Jayden, Alona, Leo, Ismahil, Ibrahim and Sam (11 and 12 year old Fellows of The Giving Square).

Our special guests: Sam's grandmother Sue Geller (also a Fellow of The Giving Square!) shares her family's refugee story.

The series: "Kids are Philanthropists, Too!" demonstrates what we all can learn from children who have embraced their philanthropic identity and capacities. Like the podcast? Spread the word! Get involved, follow and support The Giving Square.

Want to engage more in this topic with kids? The Giving Square endorses these books as starting points for kids (and former kids!) of all ages:

• Lubna and Pebby (ages 4+)
• A Different Pond by Bao Phi (ages 4+)
• La Frontero by Deborah Mills and Alfredo Alvo (ages 6+)
• Gibberish by Young Vo (ages 4+)
• Drawn Together by Minh Lê (ages 3+)