It’s time to go behind the curtain of the director role and have honest discussions with leaders in the campus recreation industry.

In this episode, host Grady Sheffield, the director of Campus Recreation at Towson University and senior advisor to Campus Rec Magazine, chats with Yvette Kell, the director of Campus Recreation at the University of Missouri–St. Louis.

With nearly three decades of experience in the field, Kell brings both humor and hard-won wisdom to the director chair. From managing a groundbreaking wellness facility at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas to teaching English in Korea after a career setback, her story is one of grit, growth and grit again. She opens up about the mental toll of leadership, the importance of reframing failure and why embracing lifelong learning has been key to her success.