Duane "Bang" Ludwig is considered by many to be one of the top mma coaches in the game. Not to mention his storied career as a professional kickboxer and MMA fighter. 

Sam Coutts is a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and head instructor of the BJJ program at Ludwig Martial Arts, and a brown belt under Sensei Ludwig in the Bang Muay Thai system. 

In Episode 40, Rick sits down with Duane and Sam at Ludwig Martial Arts to talk philosophy of fighting and life, and how the two often overlap. The trio also discuss the recent release of "The Tao of MMA", a comprehensive look at the most effective techniques used in the modern mma scene. 

Get more info on The Tao of MMA here: https://www.taoofmma.com/

Get more info on the BANG Muay Thai system here: http://bangmuaythaikickboxing.com/