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Episode 4:06: Anything But Common


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Coming up in this episode

  • We do a little upgrade
  • Firefox fixes a tooltip
  • The History of W, V, X and CDE
  • How it went
  • And a new old desktop to explore
  • 0:00 Cold Open

    1:42 Lemmy's Upgraded!
    10:56 A 22 Year Old Bug
    15:50 Install Firefox Correctly
    22:22 CDE History: Intro
    24:04 CDE History: X
    27:33 CDE History: OPEN LOOK
    29:25 CDE History: COSE
    31:28 CDE History: CDE & Others
    34:24 CDE History: The Opening
    36:14 CDE History: The Releases
    43:02 How'd CDE Go?
    1:16:00 Next Time
    1:21:29 Stinger

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    https://youtu.be/-tycNQ-Ey9Q

    Banter
    • The LUS Lemmy instance got an update.
      • The ansible repo switched to tagged releases. There were ⚠️breaking changes⚠️ that needed to be prepared for.
      • One of the issues Dan had is likely fixed now.
      • The Bug that's old enough to drink and drive, but hopefully not at the same time!
      • Dan installed Firefox from the .tar.gz download.
        • Spoiler - it updates just fine because my user is the owner in the /opt directory.
        • Announcements

          This program was made possible by:

          • The letters W, V, X, C, D and E
          • 📺️Youtube
          • 📽️TILvids
          • And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons like you 😍
          • The History of The Common Desktop Environment (CDE)
            • The Andrew Project
            • W was a windowing system that was originally written for the V operating system.
            • In 1984, Robert Scheifler wrote.
            • X is our “reaction” to W
            • Ultrix Window Manager, or uwm
            • Tom's Window Manager, which eventually became Tab Window Manager, or twm
            • Open Look Specification
            • The OSF narrows the search for a User Interface.
            • HP and Microsoft's CXI and DEC's XUI to create the HP OSF/Motif Window Manager.
            • Sun went on to build OpenWindows, which was X with OPEN LOOK on top to replace SunView.
            • COSE
            • In 1994, The OSF and Unix International, a body meant to standardize UNIX, merged, and in 96, merged again with X/Open into The Open Group.
            • Motif and CDE became one
            • KDE enters the scene.
            • May of 2000 when Motif was released as OpenMotif.
            • LessTif, because Less is Mo, published an initial statement
            • August 6th, 2012, CDE was relicensed under the LGPL and was available on SourceForge, where it still lives today.
            • After opening it up, 2.2.1 was released on March 1st, 2014.
            • The final release, at least as of this recording, 2.5.1, dropped in October of 2022.
            • More Announcements
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                • Next Time

                  Some topics and feedback. Our next history exploration is the Xfce Desktop Environment

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