Pervez Hoodbhoy is a physicist in Islamabad. Pakistan. M.V. Ramana is a physicist from India now living in Vancouver. Both are concerned about the potentially catastrophic effects of nuclear war and even the non-explosive but detrimental effects of radioactivity on health and the environment. They discuss the political relations among the nuclear weapons states and the prospect for nuclear disarmament -- which they both consider bleak. They also worry about the effects and economic prospects of the widely-proposed small modular reactors, which are expensive and unlikely to be as numerous as some suggest as a solution to climate change. For the video, audio podcast, transcript, and comments column: https://tosavetheworld.ca/episode-307-nuclear-india-and-pakistan/.