On this episode recorded pre-Fourth the host Herb was joined by returning guest Eric. They kick things off talking about music but very quickly the majority of the first half of the episode focuses on pests. They talked about bees, spiders, slugs, cockroaches and more… they also talk about climate change causing more bacteria to be exposed due to melting glaciers. Halfway through they begin to discuss the use of plastics and possible solutions for humanity moving forward. Especially with all the new tech. Another great conversation. Tune in.