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Episode 41 of the Hot Ashes Podcast comes in hot. Lee, TK, Jarrad, and Chris light up at George’s Cigars and dive into everything from cigars and beer to customer service, AI, solo camping, bands, books, and even the moon landing.

We kick things off with what everyone’s smoking and drinking, then revisit TK’s legendary “drunk episode” and how it felt from the inside vs. how fans saw it. From there we move into a big chunk on customer service and leadership—Walmart horror stories, how (not) to train employees, mock job interviews with high schoolers, and why real human connection still beats AI phone trees every time.

Jarrad breaks down his upcoming solo camping trip in Shenandoah: gear loadout, food plan, water strategy, heart/ICD concerns, and his goal of slowing down and actually enjoying the views. Lee talks about his band Heart Stop, new 90s/2000s rock covers (Weezer, Everclear, Rage Against the Machine), and the upcoming show at the White Gazebo Pavilion behind George’s Cigars in Swansboro, NC. We also hit Lee’s books (fiction and nonfiction), using AI to tighten writing, the Carolina Museum of the Marine, movie and book nerdery, and a late‑episode dive into conspiracies like the moon landing.

If you like cigars, shop talk, leadership, camping, bands, books, Marines, movies, and a healthy dose of unfiltered brotherly banter, this one’s for you.

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