The conversation emphasizes self-reflection and the journey towards understanding one's needs and aspirations. In this conversation, Carrie Akre and Ryan Lane explore various themes surrounding personal growth, healing, and the role of art and music in their lives. They discuss the importance of understanding one's nervous system, the challenges of navigating relationships, and the impact of past experiences on present behavior. The dialogue emphasizes the significance of self-care, setting boundaries, and the quest for authentic happiness. Additionally, they reflect on the healing power of music and the joy of creating art for personal fulfillment rather than commercial success.

Ryan’s podcast list:

99% Invisible

Accidental Tech Podcast

Behind the Bastards

Between You and I

Blank Check with Griffin & David

Clarkesworld Magazine

Critical Role

Dear Hank & John

Do By Friday

Good Hang with Amy Poehler

Humans

If Books Could Kill

Maintenance Phase

My Brother, My Brother And Me

Not Another D&D Podcast

NPR's Book of the Day

Pod Save America

Radiolab

Reconcilable Differences

Roderick on the Line

Rotating Heroes

Sawbones: A Marital Tour of Misguided Medicine

Seattle Now

Serious Trouble

The Adventure Zone

The Besties

The Daily

The Flop House

The McElroy Brothers Will Be In Trolls World Tour

The Moth

The PetaPixel Photography Podcast

The Rest Is History

The Rest Is Science

This American Life

Wonderful!

Worlds Beyond Number

You're Wrong About