In this episode Greg and Hugo interview Tim and Talisa Rogers. Tim is a 2nd degree Black Belt under Robert Gordo Correa and owner of Anchor BJJ in Haikou, China and his wife Talisa runs Fit for Life Cafe, which is attached to the academy. We discuss their life in Brazil and life in China along with their bakery business and jiu-jitsu academy.

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