In this episode, host Peter Andrée and co-host Kaleigh McIntosh explore how collective action and governance can drive sustainability transitions, using food systems as a central lens. Drawing on interviews with food movement elders, Dr. Harriet Friedmann and Dr. Rod MacRae, the episode examines how change emerges through the interaction of community organizing, institutional strategy, and policy advocacy. The discussion highlights the fragmented nature of food governance in Canada, the importance of participatory and inclusive policymaking, and the role of institutions like the Toronto Food Policy Council in bridging civil society and government. Drawing on the experience of Rod and Harriet, we see how sustainable change depends not only on structures and policies but on people, those who build relationships, recognize opportunities, and mobilize collective action across differences.