In this episode of The Love Cast, Jamal has a conversation with Aly Sousa about the nature of conversion.  In this conversation, conversion is looked at from the perspective of the present tense. What if conversion isn't something that happens once in the past, but is a continual state of being?  What if all of life is an opportunity to continually be converted?  What would it look like to surrender to the flow of life and see what is happening as an opportunity for conversion?  Grab a cup of coffee and give this conversation about conversion a listen.