On this installment of the Rise Of The Creative Podcast. Hosts Winston Ward & Ash Slays sit down and talk with super talented singer/songwriter Pierre. This episode is full of gems as well as funny moments that'll be sure to keep you laughing throughout the episode. Follow Pierre on Instagram at @NotUrBabyFather (Listen to the show for his reasoning behind his Instagram name). Stay tuned for more episodes and follow us as well at @RiseOfTheCreativeNYC