Whilst the objects history leaves behind tell us about past glories, disasters and all things in between, we need to be careful not to judge past times through present day spectacles. This program offers a number of things that illustrate that point – a silver trophy for a now questionable sport, a doll with seemingly “inappropriate” marketing wording, a patented toilet which eschews flushing as detrimental to the environment, and an early 17th century “four-poster bed” which may prove people taller today. Our Zoom chat is with the descendant of a maker of very strange musical instruments.