On today’s episode of The People First Podcast, Devin Williams chats with Tim Koubek, an SVP at LogicMonitor about fear vs. empathy-based leadership. After sharing some background about their relationship, Devin and Tim open with a discussion about the transition from fear-based leadership to empathy-based leadership throughout Tim’s career, and the effect that has had. Devin and Tim then discuss the intentional things that Tim has done to continue to lead with empathy. Devin and Tim wrap up with some advice for listeners.