Dora is the owner of Spira Power Yoga; she teaches mindfulness, resilience, and burnout prevention classes and yoga teacher trainings. 
Cam is a yoga student at Spira Yoga who is seeking a new journey at midlife.

We sat down and recorded a few casual conversations about life, yoga, philosophy, and books.

This recording is our first conversation. Enjoy!

Below you will the timeline:
 -              Gratitude

 1.35      Orientation to place in life

 2.15      Involuntary nature of interest

 2.55      What about this studio drew my attention

 3.30      description of something "missing" 

 4.12      Autopoietic

 6.30      the persistent draw of yoga practice

 7.50      Hard to put a finger on it

 8.27      difference between yoga and manipulative bodywork

 10.15    sacred nature/all in one place at one time

 10.15    Operation of imagination 

 11.55    Loving attention 

 12.39    Maya - illusion

 15.15    Teacher 

 15.70    What is real (figure it out?)

 16.45    Assertion: growth only happens under adversity

 17.30    Love and grief 

 18.15    lila, dukkha

 18.41    Figuring it out 

 18.45    Trickster 

 18.73    Deadly serious game (nobody gets out alive not even Jesus Christ)

 20.15    Everyone is a teacher 

 20.22    Definition of adult: taking responsibility for one's actions in an honest manner (that's teaching

 20.55    Useful pattern of behavior (not necessary to figure it out)

 21.62    Joy of sharing motivates teaching 

 21.74    Not cling the o outcome 

 22.12    Attempt to manipulate blocks flow of information 

 22.71    Not feeding the beast limits a certain growth (maybe good future conversation

 24.70    "Beast " of capitalist culture/ teaching as opposed to "following"

 25.02    Teacher shows way (not one you "follow ") from the book Desikachar - The Heart of Yoga

 25.62    Sticky nature of popularity 

 26.02    Quality of exchange with students after closing "robust" studio.

 27.12    Fundamental motivation to act 

 28.02    Sense of wonder

 29.72    Paradox of the world 

 30.92    The journey is the point 

 32.02    we mentioned author Jonathan Haidt , The Happiness Hypothesis, The Righteous Mind

 32.02    Book mentioned; Fourth Turning

 35.42    Relationship between the state of physiology and familiarity with the 

 36.07    Culture and nature (epigenetic brothers; error to separate)

 37.47    Put a pin in nature/nurture dialog

 39.16    What is truly necessary ("real need")

 40.12    Living necessity/need for order

 41.40    Attempt to come back to topic of Fourth Turning and the hopeful message that we are at the end of a speculum (a length of time roughly equal to the potential lifetime of a person or, equivalently, the complete renewal of a human population).

 43.32    Proposition: we carry history in our bodies (attribute nose comment to Sadhguru)

 43.32    What do we (mid-life and elder) need to let go of, and what are the essential elements of history that the youngsters are ignorant of? Need to "hold space for something greater."

 44.47    timeline of yogic teaching

 46.32    The nature of how we create love and foster relationship does not change; we (as a species) sometimes forget how; that's what changes.

 46.47    Nature of verbal language

 47.62    Fear of and clumsiness with emotion

 50.82    Communicating is "the practice"

 52.52    Perception of, "not being right" as a primary threat

 53.32    Beauty of living yoga: allow self to tease back reality

 54.42    Responsibility to create as little harm as possible