Brad and Mark sit down with New York Times Best Selling author, and creator of the website Sanesolution.com, Jonathan Bailor: a nutrition and exercise expert who uses modern science and technology to simplify health.First, they discuss how Jonathan came to do what he does. He discusses his early days as a trainer who recommended eating less, and working out more—a philosophy that just made people sick and sad.Second, they discuss the flaws of the calories-in vs. calories-out philosophy and why it usually does more harm than good when it comes to achieving and maintaining weight loss.Next, they talk about the importance of avoiding the bad things in our diet and lifestyle, rather than looking for a panacea to good health. This leads into a discussion about the influence of genetic predispositions and how that constrains our control over our health.Finally, they talk about how mental health affects physical health, why drastic dieting can be counter-intuitive, and the importance of maintaining movement throughout the day.